如何帶領來上課的新人

*** 如何帶領來上課的新人***

要(讓新人)得到自覺是非常容易，但是要(使他們)成為一個霎哈嘉練習者則是不簡單的。要成為一個好的練習者，需要在内裏有深度的成長。所以對這些才參加一次公開介紹講座的新人而言，如何將他們從目前的人類意識(human awareness)帶到神聖的意識(divine awareness)是一件困難的工作。

你必須以無比的慈悲與愛心及耐心來對待他們，絕對不要對他們講太嚴苛的話，如"你這個輪穴有問題"、"你被亡魂附身了"、"你是一個負面力量" .......等等，這會給他們太大的震撼。假如他們談到他們的導師是誰，也不要去批評他的導師，你可以問他說："你的導師教你什麼？帶給你什麼？你有得到内心的平安嗎？有得到自覺嗎？"。你可以告訴新人在霎哈嘉將可以學到什麼、獲得什麼，你也可以接著說："我們的練習者也有很多人之前學過其他法門"、"我和你一樣也學過......等等"。不要讓他們覺得被你的言語刺傷，和新人維持良好的關係是非常重要的。

假如新人太過於喜歡爭辯，或滔滔不絕講他的東西，那你更要靜下來，要放棄和他辯論，這樣子的新人是很難和他論理說明的。因為霎哈嘉是超越人的頭腦心智，他們並無法經由辯論來理解霎哈嘉。你和他爭論太多，反而會讓你的額輪阻塞，或是從他身上得到一些負面的東西。

播放一些我的談話影帶是很好的作法，可挑一些片段，不必放整片。看完影帶後若他們有疑問，應該和顏悦色地回答問題。要在課程上帶他們靜坐，在初期不必對他們談太多，這對他們及你都不好。當然你必須告訴他們如何靜坐，靜坐時你可以去檢查他們頭頂是否有涼風或熱風，也應該去感知他們是偏左脈或偏右脈，並告訴他們該放下右手或舉左手向後等調整方法。

我們應該知道我們是相信愛的力量，所以我們必須對新人非常和氣，不應該生氣發怒，或讓他們覺得不舒服。我們應該強調霎哈嘉的推廣完全不是為了任何金錢利益，必須讓他們感受到愛、祥和及安全感。

在新人面前，你們要互相支持合作，不應有任何爭論，尤其不應在課堂上去指正其他練習者的説法不正確，或任意去插嘴表達看法。假如有任何不同的意見，應該要私下講，否則會給新人很不好的印象，讓他們以為霎哈嘉這一群人有什麼問題，怎麼彼此有這麼多爭吵呢？
新人會從你們這些老練習者的行為、特質、互動、行事方式來評斷霎哈嘉，所以你們的行為舉止必須表現出你們是有深度、内在已得到啓發的一群人。

註一：在公開演講之後，若Shri Mataji對老練習者談話，一定會一再叮嚀如何對待新人，内容大致是大同小異。本譯文翻自最有代表性的1995-03-16 並參考1995-03-13、1995-08-02。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正.

另有一篇相同話題的譯文："如何帶領新人" （http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/sahajayoga-sahaja-yoga-bhoots-spirit.html ）

To get realization is very easy, but to become a sahaja yogi is a difficult thing. It’s a very deep growth that you require to become a good sahaja yogi. As it is they are coming just now from that human awareness, which you have to make a divine awareness. So it’s a very difficult task I must tell you, so with all compassion and love you must deal with them, should never talk sharply.

Sometimes sahaja yogis will say, “Oh, your – this chakra is catching,” or they say, “You have got this bhoot in you,” and all sorts of things. Then they get, you know, quite shocked. You shouldn’t say all these things. Then if they tell you, “He has been to this guru, that guru,” in the beginning you should not condemn also any guru or anything. So, all right we have many like this, but they are all right now. But you can take also upon yourself: “I was also like you, you see.” Somebody says, “I doubt.” “All right, I was like you, now I’m all right,” so they don’t feel so hurt. It’s the most important thing is public relations.........

And this will be a very big challenge to all of you, because you are few and they are maybe more. So they will see from your own character, from your own style how you behave. So always support each other. See, many people start supporting other people instead of supporting sahaja yogis and sometimes they even discuss and argue. So between sahaja yogis there should be no discussions, no argument, nothing. You understand? Anything that you have to do it, you should do it separately, not before the newcomers, because that creates the worst impression and they think that there’s something wrong with these people: “Why were they arguing among themselves?”

So you have to just support only sahaja yogis and nobody else. Others are others, we are all one. Once they come to Sahaja Yoga they will also realize. But this sometimes also upsets them very much that we are all the time quarreling, fighting, saying things – as if we are not one.

Now only thing you have to tell them that, “You see, now if you have a guru, what has he given you?” is the point. “Whatever you have given is all right, but what have you given him is not the thing. What he has given you? Has he given you the knowledge? Has he given you Realization?” You have to tell. „Have you…”, “Did you get your peace? What did you get?” This is what you have to tell and what you can get in Sahaja Yoga.

Best thing would be to play My video tape and let them see for themselves. You can play it for half, whatever way you like. And then see if they have any questions, you should very silently answer them. Then you put them into meditation. Don’t talk to them too much in the beginning, because that will spoil you and spoil them. All right you sit down for meditation, let us see. Then you can just go and see on their heads if there is cool breeze coming, hot breeze coming. And also tell him how to meditate. Then they will ask you how to meditate. Then you have to tell them this is how [UNCLEAR you have to meditate/you are doing it].

Now you should see whether they are right-sided or left-sided. And accordingly you have to tell them what they have to do. But in a very gentle and a sweet manner assuring that you will be all right. There’s no problem. .........

Now we should know that we are believers in the power of love. And so we have to be very gentle with people. And not to be angry, upsetting them or saying things which can upset them. Like a businessman when he has to get people, he’s selling something, he is extremely nice and gentle.

So now we should say we are selling Sahaja Yoga for nothing. Now you have to give them that security, that peace, that love. Among yourselves you should really behave in such a manner that they should really feel that you are people, who are deep and you are enlightened. If one person is talking, another should not jump in. Let one person talk and another should look after another person. All this is going to help you very much to make the Sahaja Yoga grow here.(1995-03-16)

And Sahaja Yoga is the power of love and compassion, not of fighting or arguing. Supposing somebody is arguing too much then what should you do? You should just give up. They cannot understand Sahaja Yoga with argument because it is beyond the mind. If somebody argues too much or speaks too much, just keep quiet with him. You cannot explain to a person like that, you’ll just have a Agnya and all that from that person.

Now somebody who has been, say, to some guru or somebody, you should not say that, “Your guru was bad,” or anything. But you can say that, “I was also like you but it will be all right,” something like that doesn’t hurt them. Then gradually they will realize that their guru was wrong.   .........

Now one should (not) say also harsh things, “You’re a bhoot, there’s a bhoot in you, you’re possessed,” never talk like that. Sahaja Yogis must be extremely, extremely compassionate and kind. And don’t argue, don’t fight, nothing.(1995-03-13)

So, this was a very nice time we had together and really it was very successful all the programs. Now, you will be facing new people, who are very good, I felt that way. First thing in Sahaja Yoga is to respect each other and to respect all those who come to Sahaja Yoga. You know so much about Sahaja Yoga, they don’t know, they have come for the first time, so be kind to them. And the second thing you have to do is to really love them. In the program, each one of them got Realization, very surprising, each one of them. I was amazed really, that not one person did not raised the hand, everyone. So it is going to be a pressure on you and you must look after them, no doubt. But I’m sure you can do it very well.(1995-08-02)

頂輪之上是什麼？

*** 頂輪之上是什麼？***

練習者問： 在到達、完成頂輪之後，再更上一步又會是什麼呢？

Shri Mataji答：首先先鞏固你目前所學到的，不要想未來，否則你的自我會膨漲，會認為自己是很不得了的大瑜伽士(mahayogi，註一)。當你在無思慮的覺知狀態(thoughtless awareness)時，你會以自然而然、霎哈嘉的方式自動地前進、自動地成長。你需要的是試著去擴大無思慮的覺知狀態的時間長度，如此你就會自動成長。花朶會去思考如何才能成長嗎？絕對不會！它們就自然而然地成長。同樣地，當你變成無思慮的覺知狀態時，你就會成長，而且你知道你在成長，慢慢地你對此也會沒有疑惑。

你可以看著相片上的額輪(譯者：即紅點)，這會幫助你進入無思慮的覺知狀態。無思慮的覺知狀態是最重要的，首先你要達到此狀態，一旦你逐步鞏固無思慮的覺知狀態，那麼(下一階段的)無疑惑的覺知(doubtless awareness)狀態就會來到。此時你就會安住在自己裏面，你不會去想未來或過去，或其他種種，你就和(當下的)你自己在一起。

真正的成長會是自然且霎哈嘉的方式，而不是人為的、刻意的成長，這是一個活生生、如生命般的成長。

註一：在Shri Mataji的談話中，mahayogi有兩個截然不同的意思，一者指證量很高的瑜伽士；另一者是反諷，指自以為很不得了的半吊子練習者。此段譯文之前談的正是第二種人，所以此處必然也是指此種人，若看影帶中Shri Mataji的表情及觀眾反應，應當也是如此。當然若只看文字，應該翻成：''不要一直想著未來，然後你就會(自然)成為一個有深度的瑜伽士''。無論如何，兩種翻法都是相同的涵義，也都不影響往下談話的重點。請也參見譯文：''自我膨脹的大瑜伽士''（http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.co.nz/2018/02/mahayogis-maha-shri-mataji.html ）。

註二：譯者摘譯自Shri Mataji的談話1995-03-13. JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正.

(Question about ascending beyond the Sahastrara.)

First fix it up the one you have got it, all right? Now don’t go on futuristic, then you’ll become mahayogi. You go automatically, grow automatically, spontaneously in a sahaja way when you’re in thoughtless awareness. Try to increase that area, thoughtless awareness. Then you will automatically grow. Does this flower thinks how to grow? No, grows spontaneously, all right? In the same way you will grow when you just become thoughtlessly aware. And you will know your growth and you’ll become doubtless about it, all right? You can watch on My Agnya in the photograph, can become thoughtless. Thoughtless awareness is very important for, the first to establish yourself. Once you start establishing thoughtless awareness the doubtless awareness comes and then you are just settled down with yourself, you don’t think of future or past or anything, you are with yourself, all right? Real growth is natural and Sahaj. This is not artificially growing isn’t it? In the same way, it’s a living process of growth.

一些練習者的發問

*** 一些練習者的發問 ***

練習者問：當我們反省時，什麼是我們應該做的......？
Shri Mataji答：(霎哈嘉所談的)反省並不是你的心智活動，重點不是如此。在得到自覺之後，反省指的是進入無思慮的靜觀狀態(thoughtless awareness)，在此狀態下，你有時會得到一些來自内心的靈感、啓發，從這裏你可以知道你有那些錯處，而且此時上天也會幫助你(來進行此工作)。不用去剖析你的觀念、想法，你只要對自己說：''我現在來反省自己，我有做錯什麼？''，如此就可能會突然有一些想法浮上來。假如没有任何想法出現，那即表示你没什麼錯處，你只是有些自我懷疑而已。

練習者問：在靜坐時，我想著您的形象在我的頂輪，用此方法來進入無思慮的靜觀狀態，這樣子是否可行？
Shri Mataji 答：這是可以的，你可以如此做。真正的靜坐是要進入完全的寧靜，即在唸完口訣後，你是要進入無思慮的靜觀狀態。假如你處在深度的冥想當中，此時也不需任何口訣，也不必說什麼。

練習者問：許多人喜歡藉著聽音樂來使自己安定、安靜下來，然後進入靜坐的狀態。這可以嗎？
Shri Mataji 答：真正進入靜坐的時候，你不會希望此刻是來聽音樂，你是要達到那個無思慮的狀態，靜靜地處在那個狀態。音樂是可以用來幫助你進入那個狀態，單純的只聽音樂是可以的，但是不應該起任何反應。假如你聽音樂，但不起任何反應，那就表示你處在無思慮的靜觀狀態。（譯者：Shri Mataji的意思是：''左耳進右耳出''的聽法是可以的，但若是欣賞音樂或沉醉在音樂之中則不是靜坐）

練習者問：我在太強的燈光下常覺得不易靜坐，是否可以在黑暗中靜坐，只點一根蠟燭？
Shri Mataji答：可以，只要你可以看清楚相片即可。

練習者問：有時候我會聽到一個聲音從遠處向我而來，像一種聲波一樣，這有問題嗎？
Shri Mataji答：這是OK的，但是不應該是像有人對你講話的聲音。你可以在耳朵内滴一點油來改善這狀況。

練習者問：為什麼我覺得生命好像沒有什麼意義？
Shri Mataji答：假如在你的生活中，時間都花在各式各樣無意義、不重要的事物上面，那麼你就會有這種感覺。但假如你將重心放在霎哈嘉上面，那麼你的生命就會有意義，因為你會在其中找到你的認同與歸屬(identity)。

註一：譯者綜合摘譯自Shri Mataji的談話1995-03-06, 1995-03-13. JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正.

Yogini: And there is a, also a question about introspection. When we do introspection, what should we…?

Shri Mataji: No. I didn’t mean that introspection is your, mental activity, is not the point. Introspection means going to thoughtless awareness. After realization. Because, this is sometimes, when you are in thoughtless awareness, you get the inner thoughts, the inspirations, by which you know what’s wrong with you. And the Divine help. Don’t analyze your, I didn’t mean that. Means that you just say that [UNCLEAR I introspect myself]. what am I doing wrong? And suddenly you get some thought coming up. If there is no thought coming up that means you are alright. You are just doubting yourself.

Yogi: He said, during this meditation, he saw Mother, [UNCLEAR he thought Mother is] on his head. And he actually can see Mother is talking to him. Is that correct?

Shri Mataji: Ha?

Yogi: He can see Mother.

Shri Mataji: Is alright. Seeing is alright.

Yogi: But also he get a voice.

Shri Mataji: You see, seeing is not being. You have to be. In a dream if you see me, is alright. But, when you are awake and then you see…

Yogi: During mediation.

Shri Mataji: His close his eyes then?

Yogi: He, during meditation he, [UNCLEAR] Mother on top of his head. And he actually communicate with Mother.

Yogini: Sorry, Mother, I think that he imagines. He tries to imagine it.

Yogi: He is mentally talking to that image as a method of meditation. He tries to imagine You here to give vibrations. [UNCLEAR] automatically comes to him.

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR no that’s alright] but he should not, sort of, he can always talk to me [UNCLEAR]. I mean there is no harm in talking to me but. But, it should not be imagination sort of thing. In meditation one should be silent. After saying all the mantras and talking and all that, then you should get into the silence.

Yogi: Is it correct to do this method, to come into thoughtless awareness or?

Shri Mataji: Or?

Yogi: To imagine you have your, Try to imagine you in the Sahastrara?

Shri Mataji: It’s alright you can imagine that way. But what I’m saying you should go into thoughtless awareness. Shouldn’t talk at the time. [UNCLEAR]. Not even mantras are needed. If you are deep down, then you just [UNCLEAR are] thoughtless awareness and, you don’t even say anything [UNCLEAR].

Yogi: [UNCLEAR] about the same subject of meditation. Many Sahaja Yogis listen to music to meditate.

Shri Mataji: What he said?

Yogi: Many Yogis are listening to music to calm, to [UNCLEAR], to get into meditation.

Shri Mataji: See, somebody else is singing is alright. But, you see, if you are saying things to me, if your atten… That means you are on a mental level na? You have to go beyond mental level. Meditation is. But when you meditating you don’t want to hear anything, nothing. I mean if you have reached that state. But just silently one with that. But with the music, what happens that, you are led to that silence. But just listening is alright. just listening is alright. [UNCLEAR] I mean, there should be no reaction. When there is no reaction, then you’re in thoughtless awareness.

Yogi: Second question sorry.

Yogi: Second question is about the light. I find difficult to mediate, when there is strong, too much light.

Yogi: [UNCLEAR YOGIS TALKING]

Yogi: To mediate with a strong [UNCLER] light.

Shri Mataji: One should not have always strong light.

Yogi: Is it alright to meditate in the darkness? With a candle light

Yogi: Just the candle light. Is Ok?

Shri Mataji: Ha?

Yogi: Only a candle light.

Shri Mataji: Alright, just so that you can see my photograph. I too, don’t like this light very much. I, my eyes got spoiled because of the [UNCLEAR] lights that are throwing on me. But now they say there are cameras, we don’t need all this photographs. I mean, all this light for the photograph.

Yogi: Sometime, she hear a voice coming from far away and coming across to her.

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR what sort of?]

Yogi: Sound waves; some kind of sound waves.

Shri Mataji: It’s alright.

Yogi: It’s alright.

Shri Mataji: But not some words.

Yogi: It’s just like a, sound waves keep coming.

Shri Mataji: She can put some oil or something once. Maybe garlic. [UNCLEAR just].(1995-03-06)

(Question about life being meaningless.)

Because you’re not working for Sahaja Yoga, your life is now for Sahaja Yoga. You dedicate it to Sahaja Yoga, that’s why, all right? If you dedicate your life to all kinds of nonsensical things then you think like that. But if you dedicate to Sahaja Yoga then there’s a meaning to it because now you’ve found our your identity, all right?(1995-03-13)

自我膨脹的大瑜伽士

*** 自我膨脹的大瑜伽士 ***

前言：大瑜伽士(mahayogis，譯者：maha是''大''的意思)原是指霎哈嘉練習者若以完全的真誠與真心，持續地精進修行，他的昆達里尼會越來越強，當昆達里尼將你徹底潔靜後，這位練習者就是一位大瑜伽士(註一)。
但是在霎哈嘉的歷史中，出現不少半吊子的練習者，因為自我的脹大，開始宣稱自己如何地偉大的大瑜伽士，不僅給他自己帶來災難，也給集體造成不少麻煩。本譯文即是綜合翻譯Shri Mataji多次談及此種人的片段。

譯文：
最近(註二)我們集體内有一些大災難，許多人變成了所謂的大瑜伽士，他們開始說："我們是這個，我們是那個，我們是大瑜伽士，我們是特殊的人......."，其中有些是真正出了大問題，像那一個叫Sam的，他到任何地方都造成困擾，他腦袋裡想的都是自己。他寫了一封信宣稱母親給他權力去做這個、做那個。這完全是無稽之談，他是一個瘋子，我知道他瘋掉了，但我不曉得他會瘋到這種狀態。對於這種人，我也不知如何處理，唯一可做的就是請他離開霎哈嘉。

另外像在Milano那個傢伙，他（譯者：一位男練習者）宣稱自己是太初之母(Adi Shakti)，我說："太好了！我有太多的莎麗，寄幾件給他穿！"。這些人可能是先看到一些奇蹟，發現事情如何地自然地成就，他們的自我就開始膨漲，開始吹嘘說自己有多利害，自己可以看到什麼，自己已達到多高的境界等等，就認為自己是大瑜伽士。他們都是非常危險的人，但是許多練習者看到這樣子的人都不作聲，或許他們想這不關我的事。這是不對的，發現這樣子的人要立即讓我知道，也必須告訴他：請你離開霎哈嘉。

對這種人要小心謹慎，他們的能量都十分可怕，他們正走在通往精神病院的道路上。這種人在集體内到處都有，上次這裡(澳洲)也出現這樣子的人，我不知道他是否仍在集體內。他們的腦袋也不知道自己在講什麼，不要被他們的各式言論所煽惑感動，這種人往往也會試圖組織小團體，或給集體領導人各種麻煩，你們最好是要遠離他們。他們就只是愚笨的瘋子而已！

 

你們要記住最後的審判正在進行，隨時都會有很巨烈的篩洗，會面臨各式各樣的抉擇。那些真正走在精微靈性道上的人會逐步更敏感、更深遂；而那些輕浮、粗淺、癡呆、愚笨的人就會開始消散、被拋離。這最後的篩選正快速地進行中。

 

註一：請見1990-06-19, 2000-08-20。

註二：這是指1995年初，但是在過去也發生過許多次，在1990初的談話中Shri Mataji 即提過數次，請見譯文："蓋起你的耳朶，也遠離講你的導師壞話的那個人"（http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/hugo-maha-mataji-ashram-thomas-yogi.html

 ）。此外，譯者整理的文章："歷史上誤闖霎哈嘉的三隻狐狸"（https://sahajataiwan.blogspot.com/2017/03/blog-post.html

），其中的第三隻狐狸也是這種人。

註三：譯者綜合摘譯自Shri Mataji的談話1995-02-19, 1995-03-13, 1995-04-14. JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正.

We have had some very big calamities recently. Many people became mahayogis, you see. They were saying: ‘We are this, we are that we are mahayogis, we are special people,’ and some of them really tumbled down. So one has to be careful. One has to lead a balanced, life and a balanced attitude towards oneself. No use cursing anybody, saying anything, that somebody else is responsible for your fall. We have one now in, I have heard about him. This Chinese fellow. What’s his name is, Sam? Don’t know. About a big mahayogi is born there but, wherever he has been he’s been such a trouble I tell you, everywhere, he’s a troubleshooter. And now he thinks no end of himself. He has written a letter, to say that Mother has given me powers to get all the businesses this that. Absolute nonsense. He’s such a madman. I knew he was mad. But I didn’t know he’d go to that extent of madness. So now I don’t know what to do with such a person. Only thing we can ask him to get out of Sahaja Yoga that’s all.

But one has to be careful when you see such people with such horrible vibrations, they are on their way to lunatic asylum, and they, if they were taking drugs or something like that one can understand. It’s not so. It is always a kind of a ego that just crawls up and they start boasting, talking big and ultimately they end up. Somebody in Milano said that he was Adi Shakti. I said: ‘Very good send some of My saris I have too many of them.’ I mean, and people don’t tell Me. I have to discover. See it’s very, surprising that people once they find some mahayogi there they just think, I don’t know what they think about him. Maybe they think that’s not their business to say anything about the mahayogi you see, but, they do, come up, here and there, see, find in every place. You also had somebody here once upon a time. I don’t know if he is here still or not. So, see there are people who take to all these tantric ways and all kinds of things. And where do they end, you see, they are just mad people, that’s what they are. So never take to them and be careful that, when they are trying to form some group, please keep away from them.

I’m very happy to see all of you together so nicely placed with each other. It’s very very satisfying. And that shows the wisdom is there now to understand the value of a Sahaja Yogi. It all is going on and I think in this Mahashivaratri I’ll have to talk about these mahayogis also because they are all, coming up here and there and troubling the leaders. Now most of the leaders who are there, most of them I should say, are perfectly alright and I don’t really want to say anything about anyone.(1995-02-19)

So there are so many miracles like that that happens suddenly you are, spontaneously find things, spontaneously everything works out and you’re amazed how these things work out. Now when this happens you can write it down, you can send it over to people in America, maybe in India. There’re so many miracles like that that are happening. But there are some people who start suddenly thinking that they’re mahayogis, they’re very dangerous people. They start seeing things, they start talking big, they think, “I’m a mahayogi.” There was one who said, “I’m Adi Shakti.” I said, “All right, you send him some of My saris, I’ve too many of them.” So there are stupid people like that also. They think they’re something very great, mahayogis. And they start saying, “I’m this thing, I’m that,” it’s horrible. So such people if you find you should immediately let Me know and also tell that person, “All right, you Mr. Mahayogi please go away.” There are everywhere like that, they do all kinds of things and talk like this without any sense in their head. So you have to be careful about it, not to be impressed by such persons who say this is this, this is this. There is nobody like mahayogi in Sahaja Yoga, everybody is the same.......

(Question about ascending beyond the Sahastrara.)

First fix it up the one you have got it, all right? Now don’t go on futuristic, then you’ll become mahayogi. You go automatically, grow automatically, spontaneously in a sahaja way when you’re in thoughtless awareness. Try to increase that area, thoughtless awareness. Then you will automatically grow. Does this flower thinks how to grow? No, grows spontaneously, all right? In the same way you will grow when you just become thoughtlessly aware. And you will know your growth and you’ll become doubtless about it, all right? You can watch on My Agnya in the photograph, can become thoughtless. Thoughtless awareness is very important for, the first to establish yourself. Once you start establishing thoughtless awareness the doubtless awareness comes and then you are just settled down with yourself, you don’t think of future or past or anything, you are with yourself, all right? Real growth is natural and Sahaj. This is not artificially growing isn’t it? In the same way, it’s a living process of growth.(1995-03-13)

But there are people in Sahaja Yoga, I have seen, who are very ambitious. And they start saying that, “Mother, we want to be God realized. I want to be this and do that.” There is no office going on here that you give somebody a promotion. You have to grow yourself. Then they start proclaiming, “I am this, I am that.” We call them ‘Mahayogis’. Some of them had started saying that they have reached very high positions and they ended up in the lunatic asylum. All such suggestions if people give you, then you should shun such people. But there are also other people who join such a bombastic fellow. So, you must remember that this last judgment is working and all the time there is a big sieving out, a very big arrangement of choices. Those who are subtle, start getting subtler and subtler and subtler. But those who are frivolous, gross, idiotic, stupid, they start frittering away. So this last sieving starts very fast, working out where we realize that where are we.(1995-04-14)

So you will be the ones who will really inspire them, who will really make them follow you and take to a life of a Sahaja Yogi. Actually you are Mahayogis if you become complete. And you have to become. Nothing is more important than becoming a Mahayogi by which your Spirit gives joy, peace and blessings to everyone.(2000-08-20)

Unless and until you have that readiness, that “I don’t want anything. I don’t want. I just want to serve the Divine.” As long as you are striving for it and asking for it with full heart, with full sincerity, then I’m sure this Kundalini will be strengthened and She’ll cleanse you completely and you’ll one day be Mahayogis.(1990-06-19)

闍拿迦的一個故事

*** 闍拿迦的一個故事 ***

闍拿迦(Janaka，註一)是降世的十大宗師之一，時間約在八千年前，他是錫呂羅摩(Shri Rama)的岳父，他本身也是一位國王。他到任何的修行靜室(ashram)，靜室內的聖者都起立，並觸摸他的腳來表達敬意。其中有一位門徒叫納其柯塔(Nachiketa，註二)看了非常生氣，就對他的導師說："你們為什麼去觸摸他的腳？他是一個國王(而已)，他戴王冠，過著國王的生活，他有什麼偉大之處？他又不是一位聖人！" ，他的導師回答道："不，他是一位原始宗師(Primordial Master)，對他而言，住在宫殿和街道上是完全一樣。只有他可以給人自覺，他是處在極高的境地，不然你去他那裏看看。" 

納其柯塔就來到闍拿迦的宫殿，他實在無法理解為什麼他的導師叫他來，來拜訪這樣一位國王------穿著漂亮的衣服、穿戴許多首飾，宫殿内又有許多舞蹈及宴會等等。闍拿迦問他：你為何而來呢？納其柯塔回答：我來此希望獲得我的自覺，闍拿迦答道："你可以拿我王國内的任何東西，但是要給你自覺是太困難了！"，納其柯塔堅持說："反正你說什麼，我都完全遵行。"

闍拿迦在納其柯塔的頭頂上方吊了一把劍，要他在劍下睡覺，納其柯塔整晚都無法入睡。闍拿迦又帶他到河裏泡澡，當他們在享受河水時，有人跑來報告説宮殿起火了，但是闍拿迦繼續他的冥想，一點都不在意。過了一會兒，又有人跑來報告說火更大了，你的家人都逃離宮殿了，但是闍拿迦仍然繼續他的靜坐。接著又有人跑來大叫説火向這邊燒過來了！這位納其柯塔趕緊上岸去拿他的衣服，但是闍拿迦仍然在靜坐。最後他才張開眼睛從河中走出來。當他們走上來時，納其柯塔發現根本沒有什麼火災，闍拿迦對他說："這一切都是幻相(Mahamaya)，我知道根本没有發生什麼事，而且對我而言，没有什麼東西是重要的！"（註三）

註一：Janaka 的譯名自古即用"闍拿迦"，闍的發音同"舌"，是梵語，意思是指高深的修行人，"拿迦"才是名字。Janaka若直接音譯會是"迦拿卡"。

註二：納其柯塔是闍拿迦唯一的門徒，傳說闍拿迦用許多方法來試驗他、開導他。

註三：闍拿迦上岸來後對納其柯塔的說詞有另一個版本："當你活在無所不在的神聖力量的領域裏，大梵會照顧你"。在Shri Mataji的想法，應該這兩種說詞都是相同的。

註四：Shri Mataji 多次談到這個故事，包括闡釋無執(detachment)、真正内裏禁欲的修行人(ascetic)、真正的捨棄放下等，皆用此故事。幾次講述的内容大致大同小異。

註五：許多人會有如下的疑問：倒底宮殿是否有失火？譯者的理解是：這好像無關重點。

註六：譯者綜合摘譯自Shri Mataji的談話1994-12-04、1996-07-16、1973-12-09、1983-06-05、1993-10-15、1983-09-10. JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正.

So for people who have money, or who have wealth should not try to show off by very big cars and this and that. That of course does not mean that you should become sanyasis. On the contrary, you should be very well dignified personalities. But there should be detachment. As you saw Raja Janaka, He was a king and still He was so detached, that all the Saints used to go and touch the feet of Raja Janaka. So there was this fellow called Nachiketa, he asked his master “Why do you touch His feet? He is a king”. So the master said “All right you go and meet Him now”. So what he saw was that Janaka had all the luxuries of life. He was living in the palace and in the procession there were thousands and thousands of people who were throwing pearls on him. So Nachiketa thought he should get one pearl at least.

Next day, he went to Raja Janaka and asked Him, “Give me Self-realisation.” So Raja Janaka said, “I can give you all My kingdom but not Self-realisation, very difficult, because you are possessed by the idea of money, such a person cannot get Realisation.” He said, “All right, I will live here till I get Realisation. Next day Raja Janaka took him for a bath in the river and He was enjoying the bath. And people came and told Him that there is a fire in His palace. But Raja Janaka was meditating, He didn’t bother. Then they said that the people who are in the palace have run away. Then he says that, somebody said that now the fire is coming here. Still Raja Janaka was meditating. But Nachiketa ran out because his clothes were outside, so ran out to save his…. And still Raja Janaka was not bothered. So when He came out He told him, “Nachiketa, this is all Mahamaya.” This is how you are tested,if you are money-oriented you cannot get Self-realisation. She’s the one who is testing. All the greedy people, all the people, for money’s sake, do all kinds of thing, as you have here, Mafias, will be all punished. In any case they are not happy people, satisfied people,they are all the time worried. So first thing you must have is satisfaction. This is a very important thing in modern times to understand. (1996-07-16)

The same Shri Datta incarnated many a times on the earth. As I told you yesterday, King Janaka was one of them. King Janaka was the father of Janaki (Sitaji). He was none other than the incarnation of Shri Dattatreya.(1973-12-09)

You will be amazed that at the time of Shri Rama, His own father-in-law, who was Raja Janaka, had one disciple called Nachiketa. And he asked that he would like to know about his Self, about his Atma. And Raja Janaka told him, “You can take all my wealth, you can take everything that I have, but please don’t ask me to give you enlightenment”. But Nachiketa was very anxious and assiduous and he achieved his goal ultimately.(1983-06-05)

[Yogi: “The different types of desires, the worldly desires and the spiritual desires.”]

Shri Mataji: All right. Now people are saying that you must give up this, you must give up that. There’s nothing to be given up. If you give up, still you’ll stick on to that. I’ve known people who are very much stuck, but they think they have given up. Like, I’ll tell you, some people came to see Me. They wanted to use our ships for some purpose and they said that “We have”, they came in an ascetic dress and they said, “Mother, you are suppose to be a holy person, but you are sitting in all luxury and all this. How are you a holy person? We have given up our houses. We have given up our cars, given up this, given up that.” I said, “All right, in this house or anything which is with Me is equal to the dust particle of God Almighty, of His Feet. You can pick up anything, but should be equal.” They started looking around. They have not given up anything. They have given up stones. A detachment develops within yourself.

I don’t know if you have heard the story of Raja Janaka, whose guru was Ashtabhakar [check spelling]. Raja Janaka was the father-in-law of Shri Ram. This Raja Janaka was a king and all the saints use to bow to him, so one fellow asked his guru, “Why is it you bow to this king? He is a king and what is so great?” He said, “He’s the only one who can give realization and he’s so high.”

So he sent one of his disciples, his name was Nachikita [check spelling] to Raja Janaka. Raja Janaka told him, “No, you can ask anything, but I’ll not give you self realization.” He said, “No, Sir, I must have it. But I want to know about myself.” So he said, “All right.” So first he took him with himself to have a bath in the river. I mean many tests he took, but lastly. And there he was having his bath while people came and told that “Sir”, he was meditating. He was in thoughtless awareness, just enjoying himself. And they came and told that “Your palace is on fire.” Still he was meditating. Then they came and told him that “Now all the family is running away from the palace.” Still he was meditating. Then they said, “The fire is coming here and will burn everything that you have.” Now this fellow ran out and he clutched his clothes because he thought, “This will be all burned.” But he was still meditating. And then when he opened his eyes, he saw nothing has happened. “I know nothing has happened. And it’s nothing important to me.”

So the detachment is within. It’s not without. You don’t have to announce it. It is within. It’s something that you do everything. As I knew, I am a grandmother, I’m a mother, I’m a wife. My husband was holding a very big position, all that. I did everything, but there’s a kind of a detachment about it and this detachment can only be possible if you develop your spiritual powers. When your spirit shines, you see everything is useless and fruitless, but by giving up things, by renouncing things, you’re just pampering your ego by saying, “I have given up this. I have given up that.”(1993-10-15)

Now a question was asked whether you become an ascetic or you become detached. Now there is a confusion on this, very much. You think the one who wears a dress like a saint or an ascetic and who gives up his wife, family and runs away in the Himalayas, a ascetic, he is not. Because if goes and builds there a compound for himself with lock and key, then he is not an ascetic. He is ascetic from outside. But you become ascetic from inside. You are not attached to anything. Everything is there but you don’t get attached. I will tell you a story of Raja Janaka who was a great king in India. He was called as Bidehi – means an ascetic. And He was a king and whenever He went to any Ashram the saints used to get up and touch His feet. So one disciple of a guru got very angry ─ his name was Nachiketa ─ and he said, “How can you all touch His feet when He is a king and enjoying the life like a king, living like a king, wearing a crown? How can you touch His feet?” So the guru said that. “He is the primordial master.” To Him it does not matter whether He lives in a palace or on the street. So this Nachiketa went to Him to see. And he was very bold and he told him that, “How can you call yourself a king and also an ascetic, allow people to call you an ascetic?” So He told that, “All right, tomorrow we will go to the bath together in a river.” And He told him now you go into meditation. I am going into meditation. So the people came and told that, “Your palace is on fire.” Still He was meditating. Then they said that, “All your things are being burnt. Your children and families are running away.” Still He was meditating. Then they came and shouted, “Now the fire is coming here and all your clothes will be burnt.” So Nachiketa ran out of the water to catch hold of his clothes and to look after it. But He was still meditating. After sometime He came out and Nachiketa said, “Aren’t you worried about your palace being burnt, everything being burnt?” So He said that, “When you live in the realm of divine power, the Brahma, that looks after you.”(1983-09-10)

Like, Raja Janaka, He was the king so He had to wear ornaments, He had to wear beautiful clothes, He had to do everything. And when Nachiketa went to Him he was quite surprised that why my guru has sent him to this king who is wearing all kind of dresses and this and that and he also had a big function of dancing and this. He said, “He’s not a saint so why my guru touches His feet? He’s a king.” Of course Raja Janaka knew what he was thinking about. He said, “Why have you come here Nachiketa?” He said, “I’m here to get my Self-realisation.” He said, “You can take all My kingdom but not easy to give you Self-realisation.” He said, “Alright, whatever you say I’ll do.”

So He put a big sword on his head and asked him to sleep. He couldn’t sleep at all. Then they were having a bath, he said, “Come and have bath in the river.” People came and told that there’s fire and everybody’s running away and Raja Janaka was in His meditative mood, He was just sitting quietly. Nachiketa got a little upset.

Then they said, “The fire is coming here and all these cloths are going to be burnt.” So Nachiketa ran out to save his things but still He (Janaka) was meditating.

Then they came out and Nachiketa found that nothing that was burnt was there. It was just an illusion for people. He was amazed. Then he realised what was wrong with him, that he was doubting the Divine power Itself. The one who was Janaka, who was a king, was not bothered about His own powers, these are what? Because he is today, this you have to do it. Because I’m married, I have to wear a mangalsutra. So this is for the parampara, for the tradition style, but inside He was a saint, a very high…high level of saintliness.

When this thing happens that you get some position, any power, even in Sahaja Yoga I was surprised. If somebody becomes leader, I don’t know what happens to him. It is a myth. There’s nothing like leadership in Sahaja Yoga, nothing like that. It’s just a myth. But suddenly people jump up. It is ego that gets pampered.(1994-12-04)