霎哈嘉狀態-----自然而然的境界

*** 霎哈嘉狀態-----自然而然的境界 ***

前言：這是一個很長的談話，主要是談到什麼是''自然而然的境界''(或直譯為"霎哈嘉狀態"，the state of Sahaja)，但也談及許多其他課題，譯者嘗試彙整此主題，翻譯其大要，做為大家看全文的幫助。

譯文：

這是霎哈嘉練習者必須要達到的境界，這種狀態在薄伽梵歌( Gita )中，錫呂克里希那( Shri Krishna )叫它是Sitha Pragya。格尼殊哇( Ganeshwara )則稱之為Sahaja Stithi，即是"霎哈嘉狀態"的意思。一個達到此境界的人，就如同一面鏡子一般，眾多臉孔在鏡中走過、許多人往鏡內注目、多少裝扮在鏡前進行，但是鏡子仍然是鏡子，完全沒有改變。所以達到自然而然的境界的人，他並不在乎是誰看著他、也不管是誰在看誰、不管他是在那裡，他只是安然自處，他就獨立在他自己(的真我)之內。雖然人有種種的感官與感覺，但他不在乎這些感覺，對他而言，這些感覺沒有太大的差異 ，他不會陷入這些感覺，他只是讓這些感覺漂流而過。你們都必須達到此境界，如此你才是一個真正的霎哈嘉瑜伽士。

(雖然許多人已得到自覺)，但是我仍然發現許多練習者迷失了，迷失在想從霎哈嘉撈一點錢、迷失在領導人之爭、迷失在忌妒及羨慕之中等等，這表示這些練習者仍有許多内裡的功課要做。但是你們也不須要走入放棄所有(外在)東西的苦修，這就是為什麼我總是說 ：你們要靜坐！因為當你靜坐時，那些將你往下拉的力量會褪去，慢慢地它們會消失，因為你變成真正的你自己，你為你的真我所包圍，此時你超越在這些之上，即在貪婪、慾望之上 ，你是一個靜觀者，你只是靜靜地看觀看，你不會迷失在這些將你往下拉的事物之中。在這靜觀狀態下，你會變得精微，變成(真我的)你自己，此時外物無法干擾你、影響你。

在你得到自覺之後，你開始可以將真正的你自己和其他東西分離開來，如有些人可能看到自己的自我及其造成的種種問題，有人看到自己臍輪不好和汲汲謀利的行為，即你開始會有關於自己的真正知識。在自覺之前，人是活在無明及黑暗之中，而沒有(關於自己的)真正知識。當你內在有光，便可以看見自己的問題時，你就可以將自己和這些問題分開來，來去除它們，來使自己更清潔、更完美。一旦你更往上到達自然而然的境界時，你也不需要這些知識了，即你不需要知道你的輪穴的種種狀況，這些都不再重要了。你就像一個石頭，這個石頭内裡有完整的大腦、心、肝，你不在乎任何事，任何外物也不會令你煩憂，你只是享受著愛與慈悲的流動，及享受從別人身上再折返的愛的迴響，甚至再一段時間後，連這些都不再為你所感知，你就自然而然消融在其中。

過去的聖人是可以達到此境界，但是他們並無法將此境界告訴或教導大眾，最後他們也消失了。在過去他們並未有今日霎哈嘉瑜珈的集體意識(collective consciousness)，在現代的霎哈嘉瑜伽之下，你們發展出來一個新的象度(dimension)，在此集體意識之下，你會想到他人，你會對他人有慈悲心，你也會想給他人自覺。

達到自然而然的境界的人就猶如太陽、猶如燈，太陽和燈給外界光明，但他們對此並不自知，我們也不能說它們在享受這個給予光明的過程，他們對此事毫無所知。同樣的，到達此境界的人，他並沒有任何願望(去成就什麼)，他也認為他沒有做什麼事，但是事情就這樣自然地成就。好像他們站在那邊，就自然散發出寧靜與祥和，就自然發出光，散發出一切好的東西。因為他們本身就是光源，他們不用刻意去照亮他人，他們就會自然地去照亮周遭的一切。

或許有人會說："(既然到達那境界後，並沒有做什麼事)，那麼我們也不做任何事，為什麼我們應該去傳播霎哈嘉呢？這應該不是我們的工作" ，你會如此問，表示你仍未到達那境界！你是要經由努力、去做，來昇進到那個境界。即你必須先去知道，先去擁有所有的相關知識，然後去給他人自覺，給他人光，去成就這些事，最後你才會變成燭火或是燈本身，此時你就只是散發出光，而並不知道自己本身就是燭火或是燈。那些並不去給他人自覺，只是來參加普祭，做這個、做那個的練習者，可說是平庸的人而已，他們無法昇進到很高的境界。或許去參加普祭他們可以往上升一些，但是之後他們又會掉下來。

至於那些努力為霎哈嘉工作、努力在傳播霎哈嘉、一步一步往上成長的練習者，我有信心在我的有生之年，就可以看到他們成為光，他們不必刻意去照亮他人，因為他們本身就是光。 在你達到自然而然的境界之前，你都可以更進一步往上昇進，到達此境界之後 你就達到完美的狀態了！或許很難向你們解釋什麼是這境界，一旦你到達這自然而然的境界，你就處在一個非常精微的狀態，這狀態就是無上的福份，你就是在那裏，甚至你也不曉得你有無上的福份。

註一：大家可能會有一個疑問：自然而然的境界又是相當於以前提到的靜坐的那個層次？

（Shri Mataji說過靜坐有三個階段，一. 無思慮的靜觀 (thoughtless awareness，即Nirvichara)，二. 無疑惑的靜觀 (doubtless awareness，即Nirvikalpa)，三. 完全的自覺。在這之上才是神的自覺(God's Realization)，亦有三階段(1977-02-15)。但也另有其他談話說三個目標是：一. 無思慮的靜觀，二. 無疑惑的靜觀，三. 神的自覺(1996-03-03)。）

譯者以為Shri Mataji在談話中從靜觀的狀態一路講到完美的階段，所以自然而然的境界應該是指''無疑惑的靜觀'' 或 ''完全的自覺''。請參見譯文 ''神的自覺'' ( http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.com/2017/10/gods-realization-self-realization-god.html  ) 。

註二：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在光明節普祭(Diwali Puja) 的談話1996-11-10 。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

But today I’m going to tell you about what is the state one has to achieve. As Shri Krishna has said it in the “Gita,” describes Sitha Pragya, the second chapter, but it’s very difficult to understand Him, He is not so clear cut as your Mother is.

So people don’t understand what He is saying. And they ask the question, “How, how do you reach that state of Sitha Pragya? How do you get to that stage?” But Ganeshwara, when he wrote his “Ganeshwari,” he called it as the Sahaja Stithi, means the state of Sahaj. He didn’t call Sitha Pragya. He called it as Sahaja Stithi, meaning the state of Sahaj. So he describes the Sahaj in a very beautiful manner and very subtle. Of course, Ganeshwara also, very few people understand, I think.

A person who reaches that state is like a mirror and so many faces pass over that mirror, so many look into that mirror, so many decorate in front of the mirror, but mirror is the same as it is. So the person who is a Sitha Pragya or the person who is Sahaja is not bothered about what is facing him, who is facing whom, where he is. He stays within himself. He contains within himself. Like the sun. If the sun plays with his different rays, he is not lost. All the rays again return to him. In the same way, all the senses that we have, all the senses that are there do play around, but for a person who is in a Sahaja state it doesn’t matter, it makes no difference. He’s not involved. He just plays around. Again, all of them come back to him. This is a state you all have to achieve. Then you are really Sahaja Yogis. But I still find people lost, getting money out of Sahaja Yoga, some people lost getting out of leaderships, some are lost in getting jealousies and envies and all that.

So that means a lot of work has to be done, still, within. There is no need to work as such if you leave everything. That’s why I always say meditate, because when you meditate, what happens, that all these things that are pulling you down are finished.

Gradually they disappear because you become yourself. You get contained by yourself and you are never bored.    .............

Another thing is you rise above all these things, like greed. Now people who are greedy are still involved making money here, making money there, all that thing. Those people who are still full of lust are still making, organizing, some things like that. But in a Sahaj Stithi you just watch. You are just a witness. You are not lost into anything that is pulling you down.   ............

Just watch and this watching state, this witness state is the Sahaja Stithi. In that you become so subtle, you become yourself, meaning so subtle that nothing can disturb you, nothing can change you.   ........

Now you start seeing yourself separating from all these things. Some people come and tell Me, “Mother, see, my ego is very bad, you just take it out.” He sees his ego, he sees what is the problem is. Somebody says, “Mother, my nabhi is very bad, I’m still busy with the money.” He sees it. First starts the knowledge about yourself, we call as self-knowledge. But one has to even go beyond self-knowledge. By that knowledge, what do you do, we have to see?

When you have the knowledge, first we say there’s no knowledge, people have no knowledge, they are ignorant, there’s darkness, all that. Now the light has come, you can see. You can know what’s wrong within you. Now you start separating yourself from all those things that you see as wrong with you. You see them getting out.

So many nonsensical things there are. Like, we have jealousies, envy, greed and lust. I mean, it’s horrible things to say on a Diwali function, see. So the Diwali is that one by one so many lights are enlightened and you start seeing it first. First you start seeing what is wrong with you and then, as you see it, you don’t want it. Then you work out to get rid of it, to become clean.

Now this also knowledge disappears. You don’t have to have any knowledge. You are there. You are there. There is no need to know about your chakras, you are just there. At that stage nothing matters. You become just like a stone, I can say. Stone with a brain intact and a heart intact and a liver intact.

You just don’t mind anything, don’t get upset with anything. You just enjoy the love and compassion that’s flowing. And the ripples that come back to you, even that is lost after some time and you are just nothing but Sahaj. That is the state people achieved. In those days they achieved this state.

But with that, what lacking happened, that they’d get lost. They all got lost. They couldn’t do anything to others. One person getting it, becoming great, finished. Or two persons at the most.  ...........

So now Sahaja Yoga stands first of all at the knowledge state, where you have the knowledge. First, you should first of all have full knowledge about yourself. The self-knowledge should be complete. Then in the third stage we should say that when the knowledge is full you should get rid of all those things that you know about yourself, which are useless, which are hampering your progress, which you know is wrong.

Like, I see some dirt falling on my sari, I’ll just clean it out like that. Then you start separating yourself into that Sahaja state. But still in Sahaja Yoga you develop another dimension which is collective consciousness. That is the modern Sahaja Yoga. In the olden days they didn’t have this, so they just all got lost. Now you have collective consciousness and in that collective consciousness you start feeling others, feeling for others, compassion for others and you start working out for others.  ........

And in that state only we can say you are in a Sahaja state, where you don’t desire anything, you don’t want anything.  ........

This is the state in which, once we rise, we call it as Sahaja Stithi. In the Sahaja Stithi you think you are doing nothing. Everything is working out.

But at this stage if I tell you, you say, “Oh, we are not doing anything. Why should we spread Sahaja Yoga, it’s not our job?” Just now, that’s not your stithi, that’s why.    ..............

it’s difficult to explain to you what is this stithi is because you have to achieve it. Once you achieve it then you are in a very subtle state and that subtle state is nothing but bliss.   ........

See it is such a simple thing one has to understand that the state in which one has to rise is a state where without doing anything, everything works out. If that is your state, all right. But it’s not so. So you have to rise up to that state by doing. First you have to do it. First you have to know and then knowledge has no need, you don’t have to know, but first that has to be worked out and brought to that level.

Now Diwali has the significance that on Diwali day, what we do, we put lights all over. So that we put Sahaja Yoga everywhere. But does the light know about itself? Does the candle knows about itself? She enlightens everything but she doesn’t know. Like the moon, which is giving moonlight, does it know itself? Does he enjoy? Nothing. In the same way it happens that on a Diwali day you are, what you are doing is enlightening people, you are enlightening them, you are doing all this for them, it’s a good idea. You must do it. But also know that you have to become the lamp yourself which doesn’t know yourself.

So there are two messages. The first one is that we have to enlighten the world, we have to enlighten others. This is the first one. Then we have to become that which is the light itself and light itself doesn’t know.   .........

But to get to that state you have to work. And work is to spread Sahaja Yoga. You have to enlighten many lights. That means you will realize that you are the light which is enlightening all that, and then in a subtle way you will realize that, “I am the light.”   .........

Those who do not give self-realization to others, who just come for the pujas, this thing, are mediocres. They cannot rise very high. This coming to puja is what, like, you just rise higher with the puja then again you go down.

But those who steadily grow will grow into this state, I am sure, in My lifetime I should be able to see such people who are such that if they stand here they emit peace, they emit light, they emit everything. Because they are the light. They don’t have to enlighten, but they are the light.   ........

Now you are gradually growing one by one, step by step, so now you understand this. You understand Christ, you understand all these people and at this stage you have still to work. Those who do not work for Sahaja Yoga cannot rise higher. You have to work for Sahaja Yoga, you have to spread it more, you have to work it out, enjoy each other, this brotherhood, everything. All the qualities of a beautiful personality should be there.

Unless and until you achieve that state, then you can only rise higher to that stage which I am describing is a Sahaja Stithi. In that state you will be perfect.   ..........

In the same way these people start allowing people to pass through but we have to understand, still we have to grow. We have to still grow by working it out. Those people who are working it out and spreading it all over are the ones which are really very much there and to them, I must say, the Paramchaitanya is just their servant.   .......

Then this bliss, knowledge, everything becomes one, nothing but bliss and you are in that state of bliss which you don’t even know, you are just there. The greatest bliss is that you don’t know even anything, you’re just there.

瘋子和婆羅門的顫抖

*** 瘋子和婆羅門的顫抖 ***

前言：這是一個霎哈嘉早年發生的故事，Shri Mataji 後來多次提到，但是每次都只約略提到一點點，但在1997兩次的談話中講得較詳細，所以翻譯出來讓大家了解故事的全貌。

譯文：

我曾經在Pune 有一個公開演講，他們安排了一個演講廳，但這個廳的所有人是一些婆羅門。他們說："我們無法讓她在此處演講，因為她不是一個婆羅門。"，一些比較鬼靈精的練習者就對他們說："好！我們會將上述的話告訴報紙，說因為她不是一個婆羅門，所以........。"，"不！不！不要這樣做！我們就讓你們在這裡舉行演講！"。當我到演講廳時，這群婆羅門就坐在講台正對面的座位，他們是來抗議或是監督或是什麼我也不知道，我當時甚至也不知道之前發生過不讓我演講的插曲。但只見這群人雙手開始顫抖，即雙手在胸前大幅顫抖(註一)，我對自己說："發生了什麼事？"，

他們說："母親請停止！我們知道你是力量(Shakti)，但請停止這顫抖，我們受不了！"

我說："我沒有做什麼啊！那你們做了什麼呢？"

"我們並沒有做什麼，我們只是之前說過這是一個婆羅門的場所，所以我們想妳不適合在此演講。"

"真的？就只是這樣？"

"對！就只是這樣。妳看，那邊另外一群人也因為妳的力量而顫抖！"

我就問那邊那一群人："你們也是婆羅門嗎？"

"不！不！我們是來自Thana精神病院的瘋子。"

"那你們為何在這裏呢？"

"因為妳曾經治好我們院裏的一個病患，所以我們的長官就帶我們到這裡來。"

我就對樓上的那群婆羅門說："你們看，你們顫抖，那群人也顫抖，現在你們和他們相當一致，你們是有什麼狀況呢？"

"難道我們也瘋了嗎？"

"你們是有一些不對勁的地方！"

因為他們認為婆羅門是最高等的族群(註二)，這些都是荒謬的觀念。婆羅門(Brahmin)原來是指知道Brahma(大梵)的人，是指知道無所不在的上天大能的人。當然這群婆羅門後來都明瞭了，因為他們都變成霎哈嘉練習者了。

註一：Shri Mataji 在談話中有模仿他們雙手的抖動 ，即手指來回抖動的幅度有5公分之多，詳見談話影帶5：45 處( https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=fV1wvL3YqPY )。

註二：婆羅門是印度教的祭司貴族，是印度種姓制度下最高等的人。

註三：譯者綜合翻譯自兩次談話的共同片段1997-03-21、1997-04-06 。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

Once I had an experience in, long long time back, in Pune, where the people who were owning that “wara” said that: “We cannot have Shri Mataji’s program because She’s not a Brahmin”. So the Sahaja Yogis said: “Alright, we’ll give it in the newspaper that ‘because she’s not a Brahmin we cannot have her program’”. So, these people came to My program and the owner of that was sitting on the gallery, on top. He could not even walk he was suffering from some sort of a funny disease. So these people suddenly started – I didn’t know, they didn’t tell Me anything. They didn’t tell Me that these people have protested or whatever it is. So they all started shaking like this, doing like this, like this, like this. “Oh, Baba” I said [to Myself] “What is this?” So, I said: “What is it?” They said: “Mother stop it, we know You are Shakti but stop it, it’s too much, too much.” “But what did you do?”They said: “We didn’t do anything, we just said ‘this is a Brahmin staying and a Brahmin wara, and this area is mostly resided by Brahmins’, so we thought that You cannot have Your program”. I said: “Really, that’s all?” “Yes, yes, that’s all. But there’s, see, see on the other side, you see those people, they are also shaking with Your power.” So I asked them: “Who are you? You’re also Brahmins?”. They said: “No, no. We are certified mad people from Thana.” “And how are you here?” They said: “There was one fellow who was mad, who was cured by You.” “Really?” “So our superintendent is here, he has brought us here. We are certified mad, certified!” My goodness! These people looked at Me. I said: “See now, you tally: you are shaking and they are shaking, now you tally. Where are you?” They know now. [unsure] [Shri Mataji laughs].
And they all became Sahaja Yogis not only that but the gentleman who was sitting upstairs. I told him: “You get up and come down.” He came and since that day, he surrenders his life and did a lot of work in Pune.(1997-03-21)

Also it gives you a good idea about how you can show people, who is mad and who is not mad? Like I had a program in Pune in the beginning and they arranged it in a hall which was owned by some Brahmins. So when I went there, they said, “No, no, She is not a Brahmin so we can’t give Her the hall.”

So Sahaja Yogis were mischievous, they said, “All right, we will give it in the newspaper that they are refusing because She is not a Brahmin.”

“No, no, don’t do like that we will have it.”

So I didn’t know what was happening behind the back. When I went there, I was sitting there. Very interesting I saw about twenty-five people sitting in front of Me shaking like this you see.

“Mother, stop it, stop it, we know Your power, stop it.”

I said, “I am not doing any thing you are….”

They said, “Now, also there are people who are shaking like this.”

So I said, “Ask them, who they are?”

They said, “We are certified mad from Thane. We have come here with our superintendent because You had cured one mad man.”

So they said, “Are we also mad?”

“Yes, there is something wrong.”

So the thing was they were thinking the Brahmins are the highest or something like that. Is all nonsensical ideas because Brahmin is that which knows the Brahma which knows All Pervading Power and because of these funny ideas they have tortured all the saints. Specially in Maharashtra people have tortured all the saints all the time.(1997-04-06)

一個測試自我及制約的方法

*** 一個測試自我及制約的方法  ***

(那些愛批評的人)應該拿一張紙-----薄紙，放在手掌上，然後面對相片。假如你可以停止手掌的抖動(shaking)，那麼表示你是ok的。你們每一個人都可以來試驗看看，譬如先試試看右手，這是非常實際的方法，假如紙張在抖動，這表示你內在的"自我先生"(Mr. Ego) 在顫抖。在霎哈嘉你知道如何處理你的自我，感謝穆罕默德 ，他告訴我們如何處理自我。(即用鞋打法)

人的内裡有兩個問題，一個是制約(conditioning)，另一個是自我，我們的觀念及想法(minds) 就是來自制約及自我，其實我們是活在這兩者的掌控之下(註一)，所以你必須非常小心。你現在可以試試你的左手，假如你的左手會抖動，那麼表示你有一些制約，假如你的右手會抖動，那你是有一些自我。若有，你們就要去處理這兩個問題。

在我面前你可以感知能量(vibration)，因為我是你的母親，所以你能感受到能量，但這並不表示你是ok的、沒問題的，你必須在我的相片前測試(能量或是抖動)，那會更準確。.....(註二).....。在相片之前，在你的左手掌放一張報紙，或小一點的紙、薄一點的紙，在右手放另外一張紙，或左右逐一測試，來看看你自己是什麼樣的情形。畢竟你來到霎哈嘉，並不是來拯救解放我，你來到這裡是想讓自己更進一步演化，所以你必須面對你自己，自己來看你內在有什麼-----有那些點很強烈、有那些點是給你麻煩、有那些點正在將你往下拖、有那些點正在傷害你？

譯者整理：Shri Mataji談到的方法如下：以坐姿為例，將靜坐時放在大腿的雙掌往上提高約20公分，雙掌仍是向上，手掌上放一張紙(可用影印紙，或更薄一些的紙，大小約半張A4)，然後面對相片，看紙張是否會抖動？假如左手會抖動，表示你有一些制約，假如右手會抖動，那你是有一些自我。

註一：關於mind，Shri Mataji在1996的談話中多次談及此課題，請看如下譯文：你的想法與觀念都是虚構的(上)及 (下) ( http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.com/2018/05/shri-mataji-1996-03-21-mind-ego.html ) 及 ( http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.com/2018/05/conditionings-deformity-httpsahajataiwan.html )

註二：略去的這一小段談話和本文較不相關，譯者放在此：作為一個母親，你是知道我有時候會玩遊戲，我不知道如何說(來向你們解釋此點)，或許你未必知道此點。

註三：在此段譯文之前的談話，Shri Mataji 提到精神病院的病患在她前面雙手會大幅抖動 (即手指來回抖動的幅度有5公分之多)，詳見談話影帶5：45 處( https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=fV1wvL3YqPY )。

註四：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在生日普祭(Birthday Puja) 的談話1997-03-21 。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

So what I’m saying that anybody who talks like that, that: “This is wrong in Sahaja Yoga, this should not happen, we should not have paid so much or this leader is not good”, should take a paper, thin paper on his hand and put it before the photograph. If you can stop the shaking, then you are alright.” All of you can try this. Then try on the right hand, very practical. If the paper is shaking, that means “mister ego” is shaking and you know how to treat your ego in Sahaja Yoga. Thanks to Mohammed Sahib. He has told us how to treat it [shoebeat].

Now these two problems are within us. One of them is our conditioning and another is this ego business. And we make our minds out of that and we are playing under the governance of these two things which we have used to make this mind. Now you have to be careful, you find out with left hand. Now, let’s see. If the left hand is shaking then you are conditioned, if the right hand is shaking then you are egoistical. So now you treat it. You treat these two things. Before Me you’ll get vibrations alright because you see, I’m your Mother, alright. But that doesn’t mean you are alright. You try on My photograph, that’s much more sharp. Being a mother, you know, I play around I think- I don’t know what I should say- but maybe you might not feel that. But before the photograph you put on the left hand side a newspaper, or a little paper or a thin paper. On the right had side another paper. One by one you try and judge yourself what are you. After all, you have not come here in Sahaja Yoga to emancipate Me. You have come here to evolve yourself. And because of that you have to face yourself and see for yourself what is within you, which is very strong, which is troublesome, which is dragging you down, which is killing.

一個制約(conditioning)的例子

*** 一個制約(conditioning)的例子  ***

 

西方國家的練習有一個很特殊的現象，我觀察到這個現象，對此也非常訝異。他們只唱錫呂格涅沙(Shri  Ganesha)的歌曲，他們知道所有錫呂格涅沙的歌曲、相片、及所有相關的一切。而我看到的卻是能量都不見了！為什麼格涅沙停止了能量呢？我了解到這些練習者如此做的原因，因為我說過錫呂格涅沙降世為耶穌基督，他們因此對基督、對基督教(Christianity)產生了認同(identification)，這是一個非常幽微(subtle)的(錯誤)認同，所以整個能量都不見了。是很難去想像，我在東歐一個國家聽他們唱錫呂格涅沙的歌，但所有的能量都停止了。他們唱錫呂格涅沙的所有歌曲，而不唱任何其他霎哈嘉的歌曲。在這裏，他們有一種很幽微的認同。

有些人很容易有一些認同，譬如認同他的國家、認同某一種崇拜的方式。所有這些錯誤的認同都必須放棄，但這對人們是頗困難的，因為他們是如此被這些認同所制約。只要你有制約，你就無法超越你的這些觀念與想法，雖然這些想法與觀念都是虛構的，但是你就是無法不被它掌控。

所以要嘗試去了解你有什麼制約。

 

註一：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在導師普祭(Guru Puja)的談話1996-07-28。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

All these things are so clearly evident in our characters.  Some people are very identified, say with their country, or maybe with their worshipping style, whatever it is.  All these mis-identifications have to be given up.  It is very difficult for people because they are so conditioned, and as long as you have conditioning you cannot rise above your mind, which is a myth, you cannot.  Now, try to understand, what your conditionings are.

One of them, I would say, I have seen and I am so surprised, you go to the Western countries, all of them only sing songs of Shri Ganesha.  They know all the songs of Shri Ganesha. Shri Ganesha’s photographs, Shri Ganesha’s everything, children also.  And now I have seen that vibrations stop! Why should they stop? Why should Ganesha stop the vibrations?  Why they are doing it, I realised, was because I said Shri Ganesha incarnated as Christ.  Their identification is with Christ and Christianity, in a very subtle way.  So all the vibrations stopped! Imagine with Shri Ganesha’s music, we heard in one of the Eastern Block countries, and all the vibrations had stopped and they were singing all the songs of Shri Ganesha and not one song of Sahaja Yoga, leave alone about the Guru, not once.  So, even there is a very subtle identification.

你捨棄了什麼？

*** 你捨棄了什麼？ ***

有一次一位"Hare Rama Hare Krishna" 團體(註一)的人來找我。

他說：我們聽說你是一位偉大的聖者，又是.......，但是你有這麼舒適的生活，你擁有這麼多東西，這麼好的東西等等，你如何可能是一個聖者呢？(註二)

我答道：那你如何是一個聖者呢？

他說：我捨棄的我的家庭！捨棄我的車子！捨棄我的房子！也捨棄的我的小孩！

我說：你還捨棄丟掉了另一樣東西。

他問：什麼東西呢？

我答：你的腦袋！

他說：你怎麼能說我丟掉了我的腦袋呢？

我答道：很簡單！我並沒有捨棄任何東西，因為我沒有擁有任何東西！當你沒有擁有任何東西，你如何能捨棄東西呢？現在，你看看，在這房子內、在我身上(穿戴的)，假如你可以找到任何東西，可以比得上錫呂克里希納(Shri Krishna)的塵土(註三)，那麼你可以帶走。你們所捨棄的是什麼？只是一些無價值的石頭而已！為什麼要吹噓："我捨棄的這個，又捨棄的那個'' 呢？

這群人甚至剔光他們的頭！(還以為剃光頭可以上天堂，實在是難以想像的無知！) (請參見註一的另一譯文)

註一：應是指唸誦''Hare Rama Hare Krishna''口訣的Hare Krishna 宗教團體，發源於印度，在全世界各大城市都常可以看到他們在遊街，沿路唱歌跳舞，不斷唸誦上述的讚頌，男生都剔光頭。Shri Mataji曾說這群人雖然崇拜錫呂克里希納(主管喉輪的神祇)，但唸個不停，以致於喉輪都壞掉。Shri Mataji基本上認為他們的捨棄與苦行都是外在而已，人無法經由這些外在的行為來悟道。關於Shri Mataji對他們的批評，亦可參考另一譯文：''瑜伽才是重點'' ( http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.co.nz/2017/10/ritualistic-bhakti-shraddha.html )。

註二：這個質問、答覆及背後的精義和另一個故事很類似，請看：''闍拿迦的一個故事'' ( http://sahajataiwan.blogspot.co.nz/2018/02/janaka-shri-rama-ashram-nachiketa.html )。

註三：錫呂克里希納即是上帝，Shri Mataji此處是引用 ''沒有什麼東西比上帝創造的塵土還偉大、還可以更永續'' 的諺語。

註四：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在導師普祭(Guru Puja)的談話1996-07-28。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

Once this ‘Hare Rama Hare Krishna’ fellow came to Me.  And he said that “We have heard you are a great saint, this thing, that thing, and you have all the comforts of life – you have everything here, very nice, this thing, that.  So, how are you a saint?”  I said “How are you a saint?” [He said] “I have given up my family, I have given up my cars, I have given up my house, I have given up my children.”  I said “One more thing you have given up”, he said “What?” I said “Your brains!!”  (laughter and applause) So he said, “How do you say we have given up our brains?”  I said, “Very simple, I’ve given up nothing, because I am holding nothing! What is there to give up when you are not holding anything?  Now, I would say in this house, or on my body, anywhere, [if] you think you can find anything equal to the dust particle of Shri Krishna, you can take it.  Should be equal though.”  Now they started looking here and there.  I said “Then what have you given up? Just stones? What have you given?  Why are you boasting about giving up that, and giving up this and giving up…?”  They even shaved their head.

從自我覺醒到成為導師

*** 從自我覺醒到成為導師  ***

過去的修行人必須通過很多艱辛的磨練，才可以達到聖人的境界，獲致導師的地位(Gurupada)。但是在霎哈嘉則不必這樣，因為我想一旦人可以獲得自覺，他們可以看到自己有什麼問題，他們可以自我反省，然後會嘗試去糾正自己。對許多練習者而言，我的這種預期是正確的，但是有一些練習者仍是原地踏步、不思昇進，心中只是想著自己已是霎哈嘉瑜伽士、已獲得很高的成就、已是很特殊的人等等。這些錯覺製造了不少問題，讓他們心胸狹隘、自私、自我中心等等，甚至人們會想這些人怎麼可能是要霎哈嘉練習者呢？

所以你們首先要明瞭，你們為何可以獲得自覺？這純粹是因為這個時代的生命能量散發出無比的慈悲與愛心，在過去它從未如此。但是因為你們很輕易、很廉價地獲得自覺，許多人並不了解(它的珍貴)，所以他們不靜坐、不會反省、也不真誠奉獻。當然有一些人已達到相當的境地，但大多數人只是活在自以為有所成就的錯覺裡。

我們首先要反省的是：我們是否只關心自己呢？是否所有的時間想的都是："我有這些困難、那些困難，我有種種的苦楚等等"，假如你的注意力都在此，時時刻刻擔心的都是自己，那麼你就無法打破你自己的藩籬，你只是被你的自私及自我中心所控制。若只想到你自己，那是會妨礙你的成長。

舉例來說，假如你擔心的是你身體的舒適，或你身體的毛病，那麼你仍是處在身體的層次而已，你必須從身體的層次往上昇進，那麼你應該如何做呢？以習慣於身體的舒適為例，比如你習慣要有舒適的床，房間內要有衛浴，那麼你應該去做處罰你的身體的事情，到身體覺得不舒適的處境，去了解你並不為身體的舒適性所掌控。當你不受制於你的身體，這會是一個很大的成就。當然假如你遇到舒適的環境，那是很好的事，但若你沒有，那也是很好的事。對一個霎哈嘉瑜伽士而言，非常重要的一點是，他必須能活得像一個聖人，(能隨遇而安)。我並非說你必須像一個苦行者，但是在內裡，你必須像一個苦行者一般可以掌控你的身體。

有多位偉大的修行者都問過我："那些人為什麽被祝福，而可以獲得自覺呢？他們有做過什麽嗎？"，我回答道："只因為他們的意願(desire)而已！"。但是在自覺之後，若你只有意願是不夠的，你必須倚靠你自己，必須依靠你的靈的光，必須去明瞭你有那些點須要改進，這對你的昇進是非常重要的。你隨時要問自己："為什麽我想要這個東西？(譯者：如前述的''為何我要有舒適的床？'')想要這樣做？為什麽我需要這個？我這樣做的目的是什麽？"。靈體本身是可以自我滿足的，假如你已被賦予靈性，(假如你的靈性已被喚醒)，那麽你應該可以自我滿足的，你內在的自我滿足將可以帶你到喜樂的海洋(Ocean of Joy)，即一種喜樂的狀態，在此狀態下本身就是喜樂，你就享受這喜樂，無需其他的東西來讓你高興，這就是所謂的''純粹的喜樂''(nirananda)。

註一：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在導師普祭(Guru Puja)的談話1996-07-28。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

So to get this Gurupada, to the position of a guru, after that they had to work very, very hard to achieve a state of a saint.  But in Sahaja Yoga that is not the case, as you know.  I just thought – if people get their realisation, they’ll see for themselves what’s wrong with them, they will introspect themselves and will try to correct themselves. It is true, for many, many people, but some of them still are lingering behind and are going on and on and on thinking that they are Sahaja Yogis, they have achieved a lot, they are something very special. So this delusion is all the time is creating this problem. This delusion makes them very narrow minded, selfish, self-centred, and people can’t believe how can they be Sahaja Yogis.

So the first and foremost thing we have to know that this Sahaja Yoga has worked out because Paramchaitanya is transmitting compassion, It never did before, It never had that kind of an attitude which it is there because I am a Mother.  And this compassion has worked it this way that: you all have got your realisation, you have achieved a state which we can call as a Self-realised souls.  But still, because you got it so easily, cheaply, I think still we don’t realise what we have got.  Still we do not practice meditation, introspection and dedication.  Some are very much there, but mostly we are just living in the idea that we have already achieved.

So, the first thing we should introspect: Are we concerned about ourselves?  All the time do we think that we are suffering, we have this problem, that problem, or this should be done, that should be done.  If the attention is on that, that all the time you are worried about yourself, then you cannot break, you cannot break through this shell of your being, which is under the domination of your mental selfishness or self-centredness.  Even self-centredness is absolutely against your growth.   ........

But if you are worried about your body comforts or your body troubles then still you are at a body level, which you have to transcend.  Worried about how you look, how you dress up, what sort of things you have to wear: all this makes you yet not a good Sahaja Yogi.  This is one style of Sahaja Yogis who still want very great comforts.

So, what you have to do, if you are used to comforts: try to go and sleep on the street.  I will not do that, but you can do it. Or sleep on a tree, you may fall down doesn’t matter (laughter).  Do all kinds of things that are necessary to punish your body to understand that you are not bound with this comfort of the body.  This is one of the greatest things one has to see, that you are not bound by your body.  It’s alright if you have comfort, well and good, if you don’t have, well and good. For a Sahaja Yogi it is very important that he should be able to live like a saint. Not necessarily that you should become a sanyasi, but from inside your body should be such that you can dominate your body. How can you not sleep anywhere? Why can you not sleep anywhere?    .........

Many people tell Me “Mother, people had to do so much: to go to Himalayas, do this, do that, and then they got their realisation.  How is it these people you have blessed?”  Even some great saints asked Me that.  “What right they had to get their realisation?  Why did you give them realisation?  What have they achieved?”  I said “Only their desire.  Their desire was very much there that they should get their Self-realisation and that’s how they got it“.

But now to go into only desire, is not sufficient.  You have to depend on yourself, on the light of your Spirit you should see what’s wrong with you.  This is a very important thing. Ask questions to yourself.  “Why do I want this? Why do I need this? What is the purpose?”    .........

So spirituality itself should be self-satisfying.  If you are spiritually endowed, then you are self-satisfied.  And this self-satisfaction within you will lead you to that Ocean of Joy about which I have been telling you and all the scriptures have described.  For Sahaja Yogis, the word we use is nirananda.  Nirananda means: A joyous state, where nothing is needed.  Joy itself is joy.  You are enjoying only joy. Nothing is needed to make you happy. You are happy because of joy that you have, in the nirananda state.

想坐在前面的無明

*** 想坐在前面的無明  ***

仍然有許多人喜歡(在普祭和演講時 )搶坐在前頭，印度人特別是常常一群人坐在最前面。沒有人有權利去坐在前面，或要求一個特別的位置。每一個人都應該坐在他可以坐下來的任何地方，而且應帶著完全的滿足的心。不論你坐在前面或角落，或甚至在較暗的地方，你都可以接收到我的能量，也可以接收到所有(好的)東西。去坐在一個顯著的位置是完全不必要的，顯著的位置代表什麼？你可以獲得什麼呢？不是應該消散融入在群眾之中、融入在愛的海洋之中嗎？  "你應該坐在前頭" 是一個完全虛構、虛假的觀念與想法。前面將會是後面，後面將會是前面。

我是很訝異，仍然有練習者在追求這種毫無意義的東西！你的注意力在那裡呢？你的腦袋想的都是什麼呢？假如你可以處在無思慮的狀態，你會是滿足的、快樂的，你也不會去追求任何東西，不會需要任何東西。有什麼值得去追求呢？有什麼事這麼重要嗎？這些可笑的觀念想法都是來自人的無明 (ignorance) !

註一：江瑞凱摘譯自Shri Mataji 在導師普祭(Guru Puja)的談話1996-07-28。JSM ! 敬請霎哈嘉兄弟姊妹們指正。

Also, there are still very people who want to be in the front.  Specially Indians will all sit together in front, I’ve seen that way.  They have no right, they have no right to sit in front.  Nobody has right to sit in front or to seek a place.  They should sit wherever they get seat to sit down with complete satisfaction.  Whether you sit in front or at that corner, even in the darkness, you can get My vibrations, you can get everything.  So to be prominent, to sit some place where you are prominent, is not necessary.  What is it in a prominence, what do you get? To be lost into the crowds, to be lost into the Ocean of Love is the main thing.  All these are mythical that,  we should somehow or other get the front place.  You see as Marathi apan manto (We say), “Samor chi zaaga patkauli mi!” means “I have managed to get the front seat!”  Front will be the back, and back will be the front.

It is very surprising how still people are trying to achieve something so nonsensical. So where is your mind, where is your attention, what are you thinking?  If you are thoughtless you will be satisfied, you will be happy, you will not ask for anything, you’ll not want anything. What is there to have? What is so important?  All these ideas come from ignorance, I must tell you, from ignorance.